Vikings’ Future: Van Ginkel’s Extension & Turner’s Breakout
The Minnesota Vikings are making waves in the NFL offseason, and the latest episode of The Real Forno Show, hosted by Tyler Forness and producer Dave Stefano, dive deep into the team’s strategic moves. Aired on May 1, 2025, as part of the Vikings 1st & SKOL production in partnership with the Fans First Sports Network, this episode focuses on the one-year, $23 million extension for outside linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel, its implications for edge rusher Dallas Turner, and the potential role of third-round wide receiver pick Tai Felton. With Brian Flores’ defensive creativity and Kevin O’Connell’s offensive ingenuity at the helm, the Vikings are poised for a dynamic 2025 season. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the episode’s key discussions, enriched with quotes and insights to fuel Vikings fans’ excitement.
Andrew Van Ginkel’s Extension: A Strategic Masterstroke
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into Andrew Van Ginkel’s contract extension, a one-year, $23 million deal with $22.4 million guaranteed, securing the versatile linebacker through 2026. Forness clarifies the financial nuances, noting that the deal effectively averages $17 million per year over the next two years when viewed as part of a three-year, $43 million structure. “It’s a little high, but it’s not crazy,” Forness says, emphasizing that 60-70% guaranteed money on short-term deals is standard for a player of Van Ginkel’s caliber. His 2024 performance—11.5 sacks, 18 tackles for loss, 19 QB hits, and two pick-sixes—earned him Pro Bowl and second-team All-Pro honors, making the extension a no-brainer.
The timing of the deal, post-NFL Draft, signals the Vikings’ confidence in their edge rusher room. Forness explains, “They decided to pull the trigger now, and I think they did so because they didn’t really address the position very much in the NFL draft.” The addition of Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, a tweener edge/interior lineman, doesn’t fully address the edge depth, leaving Van Ginkel, Jonathan Greenard, and Dallas Turner as the core trio. The extension solidifies the group’s foundation, providing stability and flexibility for Brian Flores’ defensive schemes.
Van Ginkel’s fit in Flores’ system is a recurring theme. His ability to play as a stand-up edge rusher, drop into coverage, or even align off-ball makes him a “program player,” as general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah described. “You always wanna have foundational players… that meet the needs of your culture, meet the needs of your scheme,” Adofo-Mensah said on KFAN, per Forness. This versatility allows Flores to deploy creative alignments, enhancing the Vikings’ defensive unpredictability.
Dallas Turner’s Bright Future: Rotation and Growth
A significant portion of the episode addresses fan speculation about what Van Ginkel’s extension means for Dallas Turner, the 2024 first-round pick. Some fans worried that the deal might signal a lack of faith in Turner, but Forness and Stefano emphatically dismiss this notion. “Some were starting to imply, ‘Oh, you extended Andrew Van Ginkel. It means you hate Dallas Turner.’ No. Edge three is a starter,” Forness asserts. He highlights that Turner’s promotion to the third edge rusher role—behind Van Ginkel and Greenard—reflects the team’s confidence in his potential.
Turner’s rookie season (2-3 sacks, 1 interception) laid a foundation for a Year 2 leap, with Forness projecting 30-35 snaps per game in 2025. The Vikings’ decision not to re-sign veterans like Jihad Ward or Pat Jones further underscores their belief in Turner. “They didn’t bring back Jihad Ward or Pat Jones, and they didn’t sign anybody to replace those guys. Dallas Turner just got straight promoted to Edge three,” Forness notes. This rotational approach keeps Van Ginkel and Greenard fresh, with Stefano adding, “They don’t want to have Greenard and Van Ginkel playing 90% of the snaps. They want to keep ’em fresh.”
The addition of defensive tackles Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen amplifies the edge group’s potential. Stefano paints a vivid picture: “Imagine you have Andrew Van Ginkel and Dallas Turner lined up in that wide nine on the edge, and then you have Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave in the three-technique spot… If I’m a quarterback, I’m falling in the fetal position.” This front five creates matchup nightmares, with Flores’ “mad scientist” schemes exploiting 1-on-1 opportunities. Forness suggests Flores might experiment with four-down fronts or use Turner off-ball, leveraging his versatility to confuse offenses.
The episode also touches on the Vikings’ edge depth, particularly the “Edge four” role. Forness identifies this as a potential weakness, noting, “You don’t really have an Edge four… Edge four is probably gonna play around 40 to 50% of the snaps.” Prospects like Gabe Murphy and Bo Richter, both undrafted free agents, are mentioned, but their short arms (30.5 and 30.625 inches, respectively) raise concerns. Forness praises the Vikings’ strategy of targeting high-value UDFAs, citing a trend under Adofo-Mensah: “The Vikings have kept one edge rusher in all three years… That was UDFA Luigi Vilain in 2022, Andre Carter in 2023, and then last year Gabe Murphy and Bo Richter.” This approach maximizes value, allowing the team to allocate resources elsewhere. Tyler Batty from BYU could make it 4 years in a row.
Tai Felton: A Speedy Weapon with Work to Do
The episode shifts to offense with an in-depth analysis of Tai Felton, the Vikings’ third-round pick (No. 102 overall) from Maryland. At 6’2” and 190 pounds, Felton brings game-breaking speed to the receiver room, but his limitations spark a candid discussion. Forness breaks down Felton’s strengths: “He’s really fast. He’s able to be elusive in space… He creates separation really well. I also think he’s got good hands.” His ability to decelerate quickly and stack corners makes him a threat on intermediate routes like digs and deep outs, fitting Kevin O’Connell’s scheme.
However, Felton’s stiff hips are a major concern. “His hips are stiff as a board. He does not dip them well. He does not flip them well,” Forness says, explaining that this limits his route-running precision and open-field elusiveness. Unlike Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, who seamlessly round off routes, Felton struggles with breaking routes, often requiring awkward adjustments. This also impacts his viability as a punt returner, though Forness sees potential in kick returns: “Kick returns, run fast. See hole, burst through it… I think Felton could be a good kick returner because of his speed.”
Felton’s play strength and lack of route-running nuance further complicate his outlook. “He does not have strength. He’s not going to run through tacklers, he’s not gonna be strong at the catch point,” Forness notes. Additionally, Felton’s routes lack deception, with no shoulder fakes or head fakes to throw off defenders. Stefano remains optimistic, citing receivers coach Keenan McCardell’s track record: “You have Keenan McCardell who obviously helped teach Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison… Maybe he can take that can of oil and loosen those suckers up.” Forness acknowledges McCardell’s endorsement as a vote of confidence, admitting, “If Keenan McCardell says, ‘I like this guy,’ I might just be wrong.”
Felton’s role in 2025 is projected as WR4 or WR5, behind Jefferson, Addison, and Jalen Nailor, with a potential WR3 role in 2026 post-Nailor. His special teams contributions, particularly on kick returns and coverage units, could secure his roster spot. Forness projects a 700-yard season as a WR3 in his prime, calling it “a valuable asset.” The Vikings’ willingness to draft slender players—Jordan Addison (173 lbs), Mekhi Blackmon (178 lbs)—reflects their belief in Felton’s upside, provided he refines his weaknesses.
The Bigger Picture: A Team on the Rise
The episode concludes with a nod to the Vikings’ broader trajectory, including praise for quarterback J.J. McCarthy’s professionalism and leadership. “J.J. McCarthy’s just an impressive human being. He talks like he’s 40… He’s got a laid-back personality, but he takes this very seriously,” Forness says. Stefano echoes this enthusiasm, noting McCarthy’s “IT factor” and the organization’s buy-in: “The whole organization is just psyched to have him, and that’s cool.” This optimism contrasts with national media skepticism, with Forness criticizing way-too-early power rankings placing the Vikings as low as 18th.
The Van Ginkel extension, Turner’s development, and Felton’s potential signal a team building for both immediate impact and long-term success. The Vikings’ aggressive offseason moves—bolstering the defensive line with Hargrave and Allen, drafting versatile talents like Felton and Donovan Jackson—position them as a dark horse for 2025. Forness and Stefano’s analysis underscores a franchise rewarding performance, fostering depth, and embracing innovation under Flores and O’Connell.
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Why Fans Should Tune In
For Vikings fans, this episode of The Real Forno Show is a treasure trove of insights, blending film analysis, financial breakdowns, and strategic foresight. Whether you’re excited about Van Ginkel’s “scary” pass-rushing potential, Turner’s Year 2 leap, or Felton’s speed-driven upside, Forness and Stefano deliver the X’s and O’s with passion and precision. Available on Vikings 1st & SKOL and the Fans First Sports Network, this podcast is your go-to for staying ahead of the #SKOL narrative. Don’t miss out—tune in to discover why the Vikings’ 2025 season could be a game-changer. Subscribe, like, and join the conversation to fuel your purple blood!
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